ro

There are so much people who doing hire at the jobs when you are trying to apply for skills/trade, professional, and any kinds of job that does not want deaf or hard of hearing to work with them because they are afarid of getin sued by other company...

i.e.

You work as an electrician helper, you use trench to put wire underground and happened to cut the main power turn city to be black out or, you accident damaged stuff, confused doing work wrong and the company will sue electrical company who you work for.

thats how they are. even they never had any deaf people working with thier company before or not have deaf relative in thier family. they just think deaf are dumb or shitnizt.

I have been discrimmated mostly of the hiring process. which sucks.

This need to stop. I have called alot of jobs where on classifeld, empoylment agency, job placement, etc. they use other new thing that said I have already filled (which is bullshit). I have found out that they are still hiring. because they dont want to get sued for treat us like shit. We all need to do something with it seriously.

all of my family and friends (not deaf), said well look other job and dont worry about them. I dont like that We all need to do something with this job issues

Deafness

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The*Empress

Yeah it is sad that we have to use ADA and court to make people
hire deaf people and other disability people.
People don't have patience, they don't want to wait for interpreter
to sign.
It is an evil cruel world.... we can't be nice all time....
gotta demand them to give you the opportunities..
Especially in NYC, it is no use to show your good attitude
over there.... I can't even ask a hotel manager for
a direction.

I am surprise that most of those mean nasty attitude New Yorkers are
Democrats

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ro

we should talk with nad, ada, lawyers,senates, pres, and whofuckever in a conference meeting how much despreate we have in years without job due to how people have already treats us like shitnizt. I think we should build a site and have look at people's comment how much discrimmated they have... im sure they will put down to work on that issues. hmmm, maybe admin or moderator can create a subcatelog called job discrimmated. have all of peoples comment down in there and send the fourm link to nad, ada, pres, lawyer whofuckever in the email. it will prob gunna work

Nesmuth

Theres a new trend in discrimintion going on.

It's called "Safety Issue Pattern" pattern used by companies to state that their 'insurance companies' would not back the company if they hire people who could raise the risks of acidential injuries.

Richard Roehm

The*Empress

Yeah like 9/11 tragic for example, WTC building, if some wheelchaired workers get trapped in a tall building and if the elevators get stuck...
and wheelchair workers can't use stairs... but might have to crawl downstairs or something... but panicked people will step on them.

So yeah companies will get sued for that... accidental injury.

Right?

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ro

ok, this mourning, electricial job called today and want me to come down and have interview at 5pm this afternoon. They called my faincee's cell phone number and ask for me but She told them that Rob is hearing impaired and I will have him to call you. They was like uh ummm. Can he hear at all? My faincee said no, he is hard worker and been lookin for a job what he have been through with school with electricial techonolgy. They ok'd and gave the number for me to call.

I called them with relay, they act seem fine and told me to come down there at 5pm for an interview also they gave me the address and person name.
everything is allrigh.

I called VR service for an interperter....
Here's a LOG...

bladeownzjoo: xxxxx(private)
HipRelay: You are connecting to a Hamilton Relay CA. This connection is not encrypted. Typing SKSK will disconnect your call. See terms and conditions at www.hipvrs.com/terms.html. Go to www.HamiltonRelay.com for more info.

HipRelay: HRS CA1238M DIALING xxxxx(private)
HipRelay: RING 1
HipRelay: va voation vocational rehabilitation this is mary how may i help you hld
HipRelay: on lp pls (F) (HOLDING)
HipRelay: (silence) (HOLDING)
bladeownzjoo: hi this is rob bush, i need to takl someone else abuot need an interperter for job interview today at 5pm
HipRelay: good am this heidi heidia (F) yes
bladeownzjoo: hi heida, this is rob bush
HipRelay: this
HipRelay: is
bladeownzjoo: i need an interperter today at 5pm
HipRelay: hadiya who am i speaking with q
bladeownzjoo: for a job interview
bladeownzjoo: this is robert bush
HipRelay: hld on robert let me
HipRelay: run this by lori real quick i m GOING to put u on
HipRelay: hld and i l be right bak back that s a goa go
bladeownzjoo: ok ga
HipRelay: ahead and i m a put u on hld (HOLDING)
HipRelay: (silence) (HOLDING)
HipRelay: HELLO this is
HipRelay: lori (F)
HipRelay: yes i have
bladeownzjoo: hi this is robert bush, i need an interperter today at 5pm at harrell construction
HipRelay: that is pretty last min robert i m
HipRelay: on my way out thte door i m going to see another interper
HipRelay: interpreter in about 10 to 15 minutes may be i ll run that
bladeownzjoo: well does mine too. they just called this mourning
HipRelay: by them but i cant make a any guarantees and i cant sta
HipRelay: y on long i know we have an appt scheduled thurs so umm
HipRelay: i m i ll run this by interpreter AND get back with u
HipRelay: but again this emergency rate and last min informing me is i umm
HipRelay: very difficult to arrange for an interpreter so got to go
HipRelay: to sk
bladeownzjoo: ok. they jsut called this mourning
bladeownzjoo: sk
HipRelay: i know they dont give u that much umm forwarning either all ican
HipRelay: say is i l just do the bet i can and i literally
HipRelay: HAVING TO run out the door to get somboy somebody else but for
HipRelay: a meeting
HipRelay: to get somebody to an appt so
HipRelay: paying for an interpreter
HipRelay: is nt not going to be wasted again i ll get back WITH
HipRelay: u just as i can bye sksk
bladeownzjoo: ok
bladeownzjoo: sks
HipRelay: thk u sksk (PERSON HUNG UP) ANOTHER CALL Q GA
bladeownzjoo: no thanks
bladeownzjoo: sksk
HipRelay: Thank you for using Hamilton IP Relay.

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The*Empress

yeah, it is suck... if somebody call you to come today for interview
but you can't call at the last minute to get an interpreter.

i understand the frustration. but if that happen to me, I would
have gone to the job interview anyway.... and
just tell the job interviewer to write down the question and
I will write back the answer.

But if job interviewer won't, or won't hire you, then it is not
worth to work for those kind of people anyway.

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ro

I called an interperter service that I know of.
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HipRelay: HRS CA1344FT DIALING xxxxx(private)
HipRelay: RING 1
HipRelay: all american
HipRelay: intepreters for the
HipRelay: deaf (f)
bladeownzjoo: hi
bladeownzjoo: this is robert bush
bladeownzjoo: may i speak with josee a hupp ?
HipRelay: this is josie hi robert how
HipRelay: r u doing q
bladeownzjoo: im doing pretty good.
bladeownzjoo: this is seem a emgerncy
bladeownzjoo: that the job called this mourning
bladeownzjoo: last mintues
bladeownzjoo: want me to coe down for the job interview
bladeownzjoo: at 5pm today
bladeownzjoo: i watned to know if you can have time for it or any ?s
HipRelay: .. (sounds . quiet) where is the interview and
HipRelay: did u tell e that u need an intepret er q
bladeownzjoo: yes
bladeownzjoo: sorry ga
HipRelay: ..
HipRelay: that
HipRelay: s ok .. what is the name of THE company let me see
HipRelay: if i can call AND get approved to send someone for the interview
bladeownzjoo: its near raeford road
bladeownzjoo: its called xxxxx(private)
bladeownzjoo: the address is xxxxx(private)
bladeownzjoo: its about 3 miles from ftcc
HipRelay: .. ok i know where that s at .. let me call and
HipRelay: see if i can get someone
bladeownzjoo: thank
HipRelay: permission to get an intepet for u
HipRelay: call me bak in about 15 min
bladeownzjoo: give a call ****** (edited: this my phone number you shouldnt need to know )
HipRelay: to sk
bladeownzjoo: if you find
bladeownzjoo: its a jen cell phone
bladeownzjoo: thank you bye
bladeownzjoo: ko i will call you back in 15 min
HipRelay: .. thank call back
bladeownzjoo: bye
HipRelay: .. sksk
bladeownzjoo: sksk
HipRelay: Thank you for using Hamilton IP Relay.

So i waited for about 20 mintues...
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HipRelay: HRS CA1313F DIALING 910-977-1276...
HipRelay: RING 1
HipRelay: all
HipRelay: american
HipRelay: intuperters for the deaf (F)
bladeownzjoo: hi this is rob
HipRelay: hey rob this is josey i
HipRelay: called xxxxx(private) compnay the woman was a bitch she dosent want you
bladeownzjoo: omg ?
HipRelay: to have a tupr maybe you can binr your girlfriend ith you
HipRelay: good
HipRelay: luck
bladeownzjoo: ok well damn
bladeownzjoo: thx
bladeownzjoo: sk
HipRelay: alright good luck by buddy let me know how it goes talk
bladeownzjoo: ko
bladeownzjoo: thank for info
HipRelay: to you later sksk
bladeownzjoo: sk
HipRelay: (PERSON HUNG UP) ANOTHER CALL Q GA
bladeownzjoo: sksk
HipRelay: Thank you for using Hamilton IP Relay.



Well, im sick of it. Contact with EEOC hmmmm.

DoVip

Rofl, What the hell with HipRelay?

ro

HipRelay a screen name for AIM use for sidekicker users or cellphones users also.. amazing ? its a relay service for deaf/hh ... such as sorensonvrs, sprintrelayonline, etc. ya know i like this than bring up my internet broswer up.


I think im going to try go over there and have interview and see whats up with them then.. i will update when i get back from the interview and see the result

The*Empress

Yeah I can't get interpreter most of the time too, because
most of the interpreters would be at the court....

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ro

I went there for an job interview and i dont see a interperter there. I have to read the lips every questions and write on paper for them.

well that sucks

The*Empress

well that is good!!!!

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net0man

well? did u get the job?

i know it is difficult not have terps at job interviews. it would give them ideas how they can communicate with you on daily basis like paper/pen or computers.

back to hearings' fear or paranoid. it is not about ur deafness because they wouldn't give to hearings who dont have skills either. start somewhere and they will build confident in u with small steps.

like i started with desktop supports and eventually i became senior network engineer after years of hard work. my job is scarey for most people because little mistake would cost company hundred thousand bucks an hour.

good luck with ur job search.

The*Empress

Terps should be like cab drivers...

Just pls show up.

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The*Empress

Why this thread ain't locked, why mine is?

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diehardbiker

Hello, after a while looking at your experience, and discovered your from North Carolina. I went though HELL in North Carolina! Yes, I used to be electrician, and I am DEAF! The former employer there lied and betrayed me 10 years ago. I was ready to sue that employer, but after doing hard research and talked with one of attorney in North Carolina. They told me UNLESS there is contract, or a binding agreement, employer can do whatever they want to regardless! The only thing they are not allowed is mention that clearly state they don't want you because your deaf or whatever. The labor law in North Carolina is the worst in the United states. If you work for a employer in state of North Carolina withOUT any contract or written agreement, your considered as slave, PERIOD! This means employers can do whatever they want, up and including fire for ANY reason they choose to.
As right now, congress is working on making law more clear and loud. They are now focusing on age discrimination. The law jhas not passed yet, but this new bill now enable those older workers sue company for laying them off and keep younger employees, and need not to prove anything in the court. I hope disablity is next.

The telephone message you printed out does not clearly state they don't want you because your deaf. I know it sounded like yes, but in the courtroom, it means nothing. So, best to keep going until they open their mouth (Rarely it happens). Also, going though EEOC is pain in the rear! Been there before (Yes with ex employer in North Carolina). That is why I decided to forget Tar Hell, and move back to New Yawk!

Finally, don't get me wrong. I am on your side, my friend! Just that our law is so skewed up by clever employer attorneys.

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diehardbiker

I forgot to mention this, I suggest you to go to law library, usually somewhere in the courthouse. Ask librarian for the law books on employment, it is about three books long, each about 400 pages, and for those who don't have contract with employers, there is only 2 pages for those people!!! That is it! The rest are in favor for unions and employers, I dropped my jaw when I read them with my own eyes. That was the final decision for me to move out of North Carolina.

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Nesmuth

North Carolina is hicktown capital. Unless youre a major stakeholder in the tobacco industry, youre worth nothing there.

Richard

downing

this is interesting...my hubby is still looking for jobs. he did contact job agencies that left message on his sister's machince..he called them and they told him that they would help, they never did.

he did get phone calls and he called to set up interviews, they tell him job is filled, not qualified or whatever.. he is getting frustrated now...he has worked for a company for 9 yrs and now he gets the cold shoulder.. not giving him an chance....

I know it has to do with deafness...we are frankly scared because our money is going downhill because he is having a hard time finding a job for 4 months now....still not a word.....he did print out conversation with jobs and relay.. not sure if we should send to eoe because so obivious they are discriminated against his deafness...etc etc.. too many to show.. even worse part we live near D.C.,,,,ADA is piece of shit..they are no good even VRs too....and possibily EOE too...ugh. they make me sick.