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Unread 06-22-2012, 11:44 AM   #31 (permalink)
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No, they don't.
Ok, I am curious how long it would take for them (ER) to get an interpreter. One time I went to ER alone, I requested for an interpreter but they said no and that they have someone who works there and knows sign language so I had nothing else to say except "OK". When I met him, he was not that bad (better than nothing).

I heard that a few ERs already have VRI which is available 24/7.
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Unread 06-22-2012, 02:01 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Ok, I am curious how long it would take for them (ER) to get an interpreter. One time I went to ER alone, I requested for an interpreter but they said no and that they have someone who works there and knows sign language so I had nothing else to say except "OK". When I met him, he was not that bad (better than nothing).
There's a huge variety in times because there are so many variables involved. Some large urban hospitals might have a terp on staff who can run down to the ER pretty quick. Usually, the best one can hope for his a terp that's on call from an agency. Even then, it takes a while to get to the hospital. I've been called to the ER a few times for clients. It usually takes me at an hour to drive to the hospitals. We (terps) have to cover a large area, and almost no terp lives near a hospital.

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I heard that a few ERs already have VRI which is available 24/7.
Yes, more hospitals are using VRI.
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There's a huge variety in times because there are so many variables involved. Some large urban hospitals might have a terp on staff who can run down to the ER pretty quick. Usually, the best one can hope for his a terp that's on call from an agency. Even then, it takes a while to get to the hospital. I've been called to the ER a few times for clients. It usually takes me at an hour to drive to the hospitals. We (terps) have to cover a large area, and almost no terp lives near a hospital.


Yes, more hospitals are using VRI.
Since you are a certified interpreter, do you know if any business such as my workplace, hospitals, etc can use a tax write-off for interpreting services as a medical expense or not?

If they can, then from now on, when I ask for an interpreter as needed and if they say "I can't afford one", I would point out that they can write it off as a medical expense since they might not know about it and then they would say "Oh, really? then no problem". I guess that's one easy way to convince them. What do you think?

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Unread 06-23-2012, 08:34 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Since you are a certified interpreter, do you know if any business such as my workplace, hospitals, etc can use a tax write-off for interpreting services as a medical expense or not?

If they can, then from now on, when I ask for an interpreter as needed and if they say "I can't afford one", I would point out that they can write it off as a medical expense since they might not know about it and then they would say "Oh, really? then no problem". I guess that's one easy way to convince them. What do you think?
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Questions and Answers for Health Care Providers | National Association of the Deaf

Print out copies. Keep one for yourself. The other copies you can hand out to your health care providers. You can use a highlighter to mark the relevant sections.

The part you asked about specifically:

"Can health care providers receive any tax credits for the costs of providing auxiliary aids and services?

Eligible small businesses may claim a tax credit of up to 50 percent of eligible access expenditures that are over $250, but less than $10,250. The amount credited may be up to $5,000 per tax year. Eligible access expenditures include the costs of qualified interpreters, CART services, and other auxiliary aids and services. Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1990, P.L. 101-508, § 44. Please consult with your financial or tax advisor on this issue."
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Unread 07-09-2012, 09:34 PM   #35 (permalink)
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This kind of interaction seems to happen a lot

My son is 16 and was born deaf. He has been going to an ASL immersion school for 7 years now, since a "Total Communication" school wasn't helping him learn academically. My biggest concern is when he is out without me or and is either picked on by bullies or gets involved, somehow, with police who don't get that he's deaf. It scares me.
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Unread 07-10-2012, 12:30 AM   #36 (permalink)
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My son is 16 and was born deaf. He has been going to an ASL immersion school for 7 years now, since a "Total Communication" school wasn't helping him learn academically. My biggest concern is when he is out without me or and is either picked on by bullies or gets involved, somehow, with police who don't get that he's deaf. It scares me.



My grandfather who is 3rd generation deaf, and never been to school due to World War 2 (Soviets against Fascists). He raised my mother just fine, and he is living his full life and still today.
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Unread 07-10-2012, 10:25 AM   #37 (permalink)
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My son is 16 and was born deaf. He has been going to an ASL immersion school for 7 years now, since a "Total Communication" school wasn't helping him learn academically. My biggest concern is when he is out without me or and is either picked on by bullies or gets involved, somehow, with police who don't get that he's deaf. It scares me.
i think you got same concerns as any parent but you just got let go and let him fly..i say if get a child to 18 and they go off look after themselves you done good job as a parent.He going to find high and lows and got be able to handle it on his own if he to live life to the full...on the whole most people are kind and when see he deaf they accept it...you can not protect him all the time it unfair to him to do so,i know as a parent it very hard
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i think you got same concerns as any parent but you just got let go and let him fly..i say if get a child to 18 and they go off look after themselves you done good job as a parent.He going to find high and lows and got be able to handle it on his own if he to live life to the full...on the whole most people are kind and when see he deaf they accept it...you can not protect him all the time it unfair to him to do so,i know as a parent it very hard
yep.. when you'll die, who's gonna hold your son's hand then???

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Unread 08-06-2012, 12:26 AM   #39 (permalink)
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I read both threads (Reba linked to this one). As I understand it, Mr. Scofield was able to call 911 using video relay. The need for an interpreter was met by making that call.

I was indirectly involved in a very similar situation a couple of years ago. A Deaf man was living with a homosexual couple. He was subletting a room from them, and was not aware it was against the Apartment Complex's regulations to do so. In other words, the lease holders (the homosexual couple) were not permitted to sublet a room to him. The Deaf man did not know this, but the Homosexual couple did.

Well, the homosexual couple had gotten into a fight with each other, and one of the partners left for a couple of months. When they made up, and decided to be a couple again, they both decided to kick the Deaf man out.

He had nowhere to go. He could not understand them (they were screaming at him to pack his things and were basically throwing him in the street).

He called me on VP and asked for my help. I told him to call 911. He was very scared, extremely terrified.

He asked me what he needed to tell the police, I told him to call me on VP when the police got there.

When the police arrived, I told him to show the officer how he was communicating with me. His English was not great, so I signed to him to write a note to the officer, that he was going to need the officers cell phone number and would call the officer.

Luckily, the officer was able to understand what he was trying to tell him, and the call was made, and he had an interpreter the whole time the officer needed to talk to him.

Through the course of this intervention, it was discovered that the homosexual couple had cornered him in his own room, that he was paying rent for, and physically attacked him.
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Unread 08-16-2012, 10:51 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I will be attending a social and Ms. Crain will be there but not sure about Andy.
I'll be asking her because it is my understanding that Andy did NOT make a relay call to 911 at the time of this incident. It is also my understanding that he did have the Constable Office come by his home wanting to get statements from him but he refused because there was no interpreter. During my last conversation with Ms. Crain, she shared that Andy never gave an official statement to the Constable Office and they have cut off all communication with him. They only speak with her, the D.A. and DOJ. No trial date has been set for the original incident nor for the civil rights lawsuit. I'll update after speaking with Ms. Crain, don't be suprise if she has shut down supplying facts.
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Unread 08-22-2012, 08:06 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Debora Crain, the lawyer for Andy Scofield, will be appearing on FOX 26 News tonight....Wednesday Aug 22.....to give her thoughts on this issue @ 9pm CST.
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Unread 08-22-2012, 09:22 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Just watch FOX News and nothing new was presented. The only issue if impointance was that both, the D.A. Office and the Constable Office would not respond to FOX News for statements. Ms. Crain had filled Federal lawsuits against both.
Andy Scofield and his family appeared on camera, with Andy using ASL.
His son spoke about being used as an interpreter but told that Andy asked for a real interpreter. Pictures of Andy's wounds and bloody clothes were shown.

I'll update any additional news that I come into contact with. I'm hoping someone with more computer skill than I will post a link to tonight's broadcast.
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I wonder what really provoked the fight?

Andy said he told the other guy that the dog needed to be on a leash.

Did he actually say it verbally or did he gesture/sign it?

I know that the sign/gesture for dog on a leash is similar to "hang".

So, perhaps the other guy misunderstood Andy's intentions and saw what Andy said as a threat?

Either way, Andy's rights were violated. No interpreters were provided. That's a huge violation and needs to be addressed.
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I wonder what really provoked the fight?

Andy said he told the other guy that the dog needed to be on a leash.

Did he actually say it verbally or did he gesture/sign it?

I know that the sign/gesture for dog on a leash is similar to "hang".

So, perhaps the other guy misunderstood Andy's intentions and saw what Andy said as a threat?

Either way, Andy's rights were violated. No interpreters were provided. That's a huge violation and needs to be addressed.
I think Andy should file a charge against the other guy for physical assault if he hasn't done so. If I were him, I won't let that asshole getting away with it.
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Seems I do remmy reading about some deafies were signing and these gang members thought they were making gang signs, and violence ensued...

But I doubt Andy got beat up for that. Some people just don't like to be told "what to do or what they should be doing".... especially not by a deafie!...We're considered not only deaf...but by some people dumb also...

I'd sue the pants off that guy!...And for good measure, even give him a black eye and minus a few teeth!
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Seems I do remmy reading about some deafies were signing and these gang members thought they were making gang signs, and violence ensued...

But I doubt Andy got beat up for that. Some people just don't like to be told "what to do or what they should be doing".... especially not by a deafie!...We're considered not only deaf...but by some people dumb also...

I'd sue the pants off that guy!...And for good measure, even give him a black eye and minus a few teeth!
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I'll try to clear some points up.

Andy and his kids were walking their dog on a leash and the strange dog without a leah became involved. The kids vocally and Andy genstured to the dog's owner that the dog needed to be on a leash. This guy did know what the family's concern was.
Because the Constable Office refuses to release the guys statement, we have no way of knowing what the guy was saying. He has also refused to speak with FOX News.

As for Andy suing the guy for assault, that is on the back burner until his and Ms.Crain's lawsuits are settled. Yes, Andy's civil rights were violated and the Constable Office screwed up. However, the major concern is the DA Office because they have all the facts but are hiding them to avoid these lawsuits being successful.

Ms. Crain will be out-of-town this weekend, so I won't see get at the social Friday. I hope to see her at the September 7th social which will take place near her home.
Then I can re-post additional information she might share with the Deaf group at the social.
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I'll try to clear some points up.

Andy and his kids were walking their dog on a leash and the strange dog without a leah became involved. The kids vocally and Andy genstured to the dog's owner that the dog needed to be on a leash. This guy did know what the family's concern was.Because the Constable Office refuses to release the guys statement, we have no way of knowing what the guy was saying. He has also refused to speak with FOX News.

As for Andy suing the guy for assault, that is on the back burner until his and Ms.Crain's lawsuits are settled. Yes, Andy's civil rights were violated and the Constable Office screwed up. However, the major concern is the DA Office because they have all the facts but are hiding them to avoid these lawsuits being successful.

Ms. Crain will be out-of-town this weekend, so I won't see get at the social Friday. I hope to see her at the September 7th social which will take place near her home.
Then I can re-post additional information she might share with the Deaf group at the social.
If the black lab's owner knew what Andy talked about, then why did the asshole punch Andy's nose? I want to see a pix of the asshole (not of his asshole, LOL).
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If the black lab's owner knew what Andy talked about, then why did the asshole punch Andy's nose? I want to see a pix of the asshole (not of his asshole, LOL).
The answer is that this guy took the gensture of Andy as a threat to him.
As I have said, the Constable Office has yet to release the guy's statement.
We can only assume that the guy's side of the story, and it was the ONLY side the Constable listen to, was that he was acting in self-defense when he punched Andy.
Andy has all along maintain that he position himself between his family and this guy (as any father would be expected to do).

Picture of the guy? Well since HE was not arrested there is no mugshot and since he has refused to reply to FOX News there is no interview of him.

As I have said, the D.A. Office and the Constable Office are stonewalling because of the Federal lawsuits. Also, IMO, Ms. Crain has Andy on a short leash. Smart woman.
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