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Originally Posted by Cheri
I don't see it was twisted. A group means a handful of people, there are handful of Christians and Catholics who support the death penalty and there are group of handful Catholics and Christians who strongly value life, no ifs, no buts.
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No, a group means the individuals making up a specific population, and the values represented by that group collectively. A handful would be those few individuals that hold beliefs different from the group as a whole. The Catholic Church is the defining entity that consitutes the belief of the group as a whole. That is what defines the belief as a group. The few that disagree do not influence the values and norms of the group as a whole. They are simply differing views within the group.
So, in effect, it was twisted. You cannot use one dissenting opinion to establish the position of a group as a whole. I referred to group. Jiro referred to individual, and attempted to apply an individual belief to a group. That is definately twisting. In other words, simply because Shapiro supports the death penalty as a Catholic does not mean that Catholics as a group support the death penalty. Please refer to my post regarding the Catholic stance on the death penalty.