Ah.... it's just reference to their names so that audience knows who are they. If you would like me to give you government file on them instead of wiki, I can do that. We both know that is not necessary because it'll say something. Again you haven't showed me that I used wiki for my sources (other than murderers' background).
If you read carefully what I wrote to Leibling, you will see that I did not claim to be an expert. I merely said "it seems like...." Police Officer does not need medical license or graduate-level courses to determine if you pose a danger to public or not if you were pulled over for drunk driving.
and I find it ironic that you still have not been able to prove to me with solid data/statistic that death penalty is ineffective and harmful. We ALL are still waiting for it. deathpenalty.org is not a great site to convince us.
and why don't you elaborate more on your nature of studies with criminals so we can get some better idea of your expertise in this nature of issue. what were your research about? what kind of criminals are they? what are the demographic statistic on them?
He was not diagnosing the criminals. He was given reports by . President Bush speaks at the podium to discuss about the danger that Iran poses to us. He does not have expertise to diagnose either. The intelligence analyst is certainly not going to speak at the podium! President Bush was given details and such before he speaks. Same thing for FBI Special Agent John P. Skillestead. He's merely reading from reports and conclusions compiled by professional with advanced degrees.
Sure please share with us! I've mentioned previously that if you can convince me with overwhelming and sufficient arguments accompanied by empirical data, then I will fall to your side to abolish death penalty. Until then, I'm on my beach chair with pro-death penalty group.
Sure why not? They have sufficiently argued their position. Therefore I agreed with them. I'm not on their side when it comes to gay rights and pro-corporation rights.
To say that capital punishment does not decrease the rate of crimes... hmmmm that's interesting. Could you support your claim with reports? I believe I've counter-argued that claim. As said by Wesley Lowe - "
Dismissing capital punishment on that basis requires us to eliminate all prisons as well because they do not seem to be any more effective in the deterrence of crime."
The most striking protection of innocent life has been seen in Texas, which executes more murderers than any other state. According to JFA (Justice for All), the Texas murder rate in 1991 was
15.3 per 100,000. By 1999, it had fallen to
6.1 - a drop of 60%. Within Texas, the most aggressive death penalty prosecutions are in Harris County (the Houston area). Since the resumption of executions in 1982, the annual number of Harris County murders has plummeted from
701 to 241 - a 72% decrease.
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Series of academic studies within the last six years show that the death penalty does indeed act as a deterrent to murder. These analysts count that between 3 and 18 lives would be saved by the execution of each convicted murderer.
Naci Mocan, an economics professor at the University of Colorado at Denver, co-authored a 2003 study and re-examined a 2006 study that found that
each execution results in five fewer homicides, and commuting a death sentence means five more homicides. In an interview, he states:
"Science does really draw a conclusion...There is no question about it. The conclusion is there is a deterrent effect. The results are robust. They don't really go away. I oppose the death penalty. But my results show that the death penalty (deters) - what am I going to do, hide them?"
another proof -
do you require anything more?
I went back and I still haven't found any. All I got is you expressing concerned about executing wrong person. Guess what?
Justice Antonin Scalia of Supreme Court said "
... in the recent American history, there has not been a single case - not one - in which it is clear that a person was executed for a crime he did not commit."
I rest my case
