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Originally Posted by Banjo
What happened on December 7, 1941 sparked off the final decision for the country to become an ally of the UK. The fact is, at least 80% of Americans were against going to war before the Japanese military orchestrated an air raid on Pearl Harbour.
The USA was much more isolated and focused on their own country back then. All it took was an air raid to change everything.
After 9/11 occurred, it didn't take Bush long to get the troops into Afghanistan and Iraq. I have observed that It's quite easy to get the approval during a period of grievance and when a lot of people would be angry at the terrorists for doing so.
The reason why I was against the invasion of Iraq from the very beginning was because there were already rumours that the CIA report was heavily flawed and full of inaccurate facts. I just cannot approve of a war where the president largely used the "weapons of mass destruction" argument as the pitch. To this day, it cannot be justified because of that.
Politics, it's a sick game.
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The United States was already indirectly involved with WWII by allowing British ships as well as other countries within the Crown to fly American flags when there were military supplies on those ships.
Secrecy at its best.
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Originally Posted by Macian
yes I agree with that Banjo, whilst I was 100% behind us going to war with Iraq, i knew thee were lying, personally I would have supported the real reasons, the lying was done to pull in the people who couldn't decide, and that is totlally wrong and undemocratic, so heads should roll, but I stand by my opinion, we can't stand by and let our enemies get stronger by the day and do us more damage in the future, we have to snuff out future threats against our way of life.
but it pains me to be honest that it has to hit home(pearl harbour,9/11) for the US to act, it seems to be all self intrest and not a global policy. the Uk went in totlally behind you without hesitation after (9/11) something the US has never done for any other country.
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The UK has more experience with terrorism than the US. The US never had much experience with terrorism except for the local lunatics.
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Originally Posted by Macian
then I stand by my original reply to your comment, which makes perfect sense, so i have no idea what you don't understand about it.
to cut it short, if anyone thinks the world is envious of the US and want to be like them, then they couldn't be further from they truth if they tried.
where would we start? obesity?guns? racism? I could go on and on, but to cut a long story short, to my knowledge there is not one country in the world who wants to be like the US, quite the opposite.
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Then why is the world coming here to be educated in our colleges and universities as those degrees are more lucrative than what is offered in their homeland?
Why are they asking us for money to help them?
Why are they asking us for assistance in defending their nation?
Why are there are so many immigrants clammoring to get into the United States more than any other country in the world?
It's because it's known fact that things are good in the Good Ol' US of A!