I would like to respond to each of your points individually for purposes of those who may be reading. And I will, but I will have to postpone my response. (I am enjoying these discussions as well because my daughter is due to graduate from George Fox with a degree in Large Mammal Biology and she read your posts. While she disagreed with you, she urged me not to respond till she got home because she said your arguments though flawed were really well set up and needed an adequate response. {obviously she didn't feel her mom with only a degree in art and psychology with a biology minor could defend her postition well enough

}) So I will take your responses one at a time later because I threw my back out this weekend and can only sit at the computer for 5 mins at at time. Will get back to your later.