02-05-2008, 05:53 PM
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originally posted by loml
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flip - Raising children period, is not easy. Sorry if you find the statements depressing. Where is the true bi-bi flip? There isn't one. Looks good in the books, but find a real one flip. That is the reality.
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You make me dizzy. First you said raising deaf children not is easy, then you talk about children in general. Please make up your mind. Where do you think Shel is working? In a fantasy school?
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flip -Raising children is difficult flip. Sorry that you are dizzy.
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I suggest the oral schools to use bi-bi to create a successful oral program, as findings where oral programs are compared with bi-bi programs shows better results in oral skills for students from bi-bi programs.
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flip - How do you make an oral program successful? What are your ideas?
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Yes you describe SEE. If you think you have described something else than SEE, you still are making up stuff if you claim baby sign programs don't use ASL both in sign and grammars.
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flip - My definition of SEE is this: ASL signs in English word order, using affixes. Some people like to say a "sign for every word". The baby sign programs, do not teach you a sign for every word, do not use affixes, nor do they sign it in ASL syntax. They voice "Want some (insert sign) (parents says the word) milk.? In my experience, they are not taught by fluent Deaf adults. Search YouTube flip, take a look at how many hearing people are claiming they are using ASL.  Take a look at the book "American Sign Language: A Teacher's Resource Text on Grammer and Culture."
orginally posted by jillio
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Agreed. Baby sign isn't about SEE.
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If you happen to visit a true bi-bi program, I am sure you will change your mind based on your questions here.
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flip- Change my mind about what exactly?
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....Cued Speech has substantial data showing that it enables deaf children to attain competency in English at the level of hearing students grade by grade. I know of no other system that enables this to happen.... As more and more young deaf persons achieve academically because of this system, deaf leaders will need to re-examine their options.
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- Dr. Edward C. Merrill, Jr. past president of Gallaudet
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