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Old 01-21-2008, 03:39 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by DefMATRIXense View Post
You guys can argue with me anytime you want. But one thing is ADA can't protect your asses is a lot of million dollars companies and governments prefer to hire the best quality and the skills of the candidates needed to support them.

Want a crazy stories? Here are examples:

Here's what the court decided:

An airline carrier could refuse to hire two deaf pilots, even though their hear could be corrected to perfect. Since their condition could be fixed, the court said the law didn't protect them. Since the law didn't protect them, the airline company said: No job.

A delivery company fired a deaf mechanic who had high blood pressure. With medication, the blood pressure could be controlled. Since the medical condition was treatable, the court said the law didn't protect the man. Since the man had the condition, the delivery company said: No job.

So what does this mean for deaf people?

We're afraid that this means that, if you live in the U.S., you are trouble.



But now we're worried. Because what the Supreme Court is telling you as a disability person is: Don't get help. If disability is a permanent, that will forever limit your ability to read, write, hear or whatever it is then maybe you will still be able to get accommodations under the ADA. You can work as a day laborer and never be required to take a written test, because you are disability.

But if you take the initiative to overcome your problems - if you work to become a better employee then you are in trouble. You might have noticed that all the best-paying jobs these days require you to be literate. So, rather than wallow in self-pity, maybe you enrolled in a class in your community, and worked your tail off, and now you can do it. By all your hard work, you have actually developed the skills and ability to do everything your job requires. Sure, you need the help of a spell-checker – but that's standard equipment on all computers these days.
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What happens, according to the Supreme Court? Now, your boss can fire you, or refuse to promote you, just because you happen to be 'disability' even if you are doing your job well.

So what can you do? If the Supreme Court's interpretation stands, then there is only one safe course: go back into the closet. Don't tell your boss that you are disability. Lie about it. And count yourself lucky for having an invisible disability. Because, according to the U.S. Supreme Court, the law won't protect you any more.

I am sorry. I wanted pek1 to be able to achieve more, and to take pride in his abilities, to recognize his talents as gifts, and to know that with strength and determination, he can overcome his limitations.

Companies wanted to know that it is worth their while to invest in adaptive technology, such as a computer dictation system, or extend other accommodations to you, to have the benefit of your keen mind on the job. But the Supreme Court has spoken.




Disability anti-discrimination laws do not protect you. Under the ADA, your employer can't discriminate against you so long as you're well enough to go to work regularly and do the basic parts of your job, but the ADA does not protect you when you cannot do your job.
DefMATRIXense,

I hear and understand what you're saying, am glad I'm not the only one that has been feeling this way. Sure, women have to work twice as hard as men to even be considered for equal pay, which is why I support Hillary Clinton for president.

However, on the other hand, there's us. Please allow me to elaborate and please don't shoot me down for what I'm about to say.

No one ever asked me if I wanted hearing aids or to be deaf. Society years ago considered us all as deaf and dumb or the medical and psychological "professionals" diagnosed us as being mentally retarded. Maybe even instituted us in state hospitals, not residential schools for the deaf. So, now that we have all these "Rights," we have to work twice as hard as women do in order to get the same pay as them or even get promoted. Which is why, at my age, I've nearly made it a career to be in school, pursuing first the ministry, then my interests, now am pursuing my undergraduate in order to go to law school. I see that anyone who is deaf and is in law, is not doing a thing to help other deaf people. That, my dear alldeaf friends, is what I want to change. That is why I correct spelling and grammar of sara1981 and make notes to all of you that we have to play the "hearies" game. Because, when we get up to speed, we're going to be clubbing their kneecaps and getting what we all want, collectively, together. If you want to appear as "deaf and dumb," please do so, but don't do it here or in public. We deaf people want what is rightfully ours, not just a deaf president of a university, but deaf people in prominent places of leadership with credentials that speak for themselves. We don't want to hinder society, because we don't get pity, just a kick and told to stay out of the way.

As an audiologist here at Minnesota State University Moorhead told me one time, "Pete, you're gonna have to learn how to be your own advocate." Truly so.

DefMATRIXense, I believe this is what you meant, is it so?
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