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shel90 · 01-19-2008, 02:49 PM

[quote=Bear;899863]I think in this debate, that all tools should be used.

I have had the unique experience of being hearing and suddenly put into an alien world. I had to go from knowing english and speech to a whole new foriegn language.

I found it funny, because I was speaking with Angel the other day in aim, and she was like Bear, I still find it hard to believe you were once hearing. That made me laugh. She said this because to her I am very proficient in my signing skills. Now with that said.

Would I have survived in a world that was suddenly alien to me if I hadnt learned signs? Maybe eventually, but it would have been a struggle.

However, I also believe that speech and the english language is just as important to focus on as the sign is.

You may be able to get a job without speaking, but have fun finding a job with very poor english skills on top of it.

I do believe sign should be focused on first in the child's early years, then when sign is established and mastered, I see nothing wrong with introducing speech.

Now the ideal world would be a world where everyone can speak all languages including signs. But that is not about to happen. So therefore, to truly function in today's world we need at least very good written english skills and comprehension. Speech to me, is just a plus to have.

I will say this.

This debate reminds me of how many Americans are telling the Spanish, you learn to speak English if you wanna be here. Some of those people saying that are deaf as well as hearing. Wouldnt this be considered a double standard?[/QUOTE]

If those deaf people who are saying that believe in having both ASL and English in the classrooms, yes it is a double standard but if those deaf have grown up orally with English only, then probably not cuz they are monolingual.

I believe Spanish speaking people should keep their language but in order to get good jobs in America, learning English as well is required just like deaf people have to learn English. It can be in the written form only. Just like if I would to move to South America...it would make sense that I learn Spanish to get a good job, right?

The more languages the child learns, the better. My deaf friend grew up orally using Spanish, learned ASL and English at the age of 18. Now, she is fluent in all 3 languages. I think that is amazing.

01-19-2008, 02:49 PM	#192 (permalink)
shel90 Sun Whorshipper Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A Desert Rat that has found herself in Maryland Posts: 12,612 Blog Entries: 1	[quote=Bear;899863]I think in this debate, that all tools should be used. I have had the unique experience of being hearing and suddenly put into an alien world. I had to go from knowing english and speech to a whole new foriegn language. I found it funny, because I was speaking with Angel the other day in aim, and she was like Bear, I still find it hard to believe you were once hearing. That made me laugh. She said this because to her I am very proficient in my signing skills. Now with that said. Would I have survived in a world that was suddenly alien to me if I hadnt learned signs? Maybe eventually, but it would have been a struggle. However, I also believe that speech and the english language is just as important to focus on as the sign is. You may be able to get a job without speaking, but have fun finding a job with very poor english skills on top of it. I do believe sign should be focused on first in the child's early years, then when sign is established and mastered, I see nothing wrong with introducing speech. Now the ideal world would be a world where everyone can speak all languages including signs. But that is not about to happen. So therefore, to truly function in today's world we need at least very good written english skills and comprehension. Speech to me, is just a plus to have. I will say this. This debate reminds me of how many Americans are telling the Spanish, you learn to speak English if you wanna be here. Some of those people saying that are deaf as well as hearing. Wouldnt this be considered a double standard?[/QUOTE] If those deaf people who are saying that believe in having both ASL and English in the classrooms, yes it is a double standard but if those deaf have grown up orally with English only, then probably not cuz they are monolingual. I believe Spanish speaking people should keep their language but in order to get good jobs in America, learning English as well is required just like deaf people have to learn English. It can be in the written form only. Just like if I would to move to South America...it would make sense that I learn Spanish to get a good job, right? The more languages the child learns, the better. My deaf friend grew up orally using Spanish, learned ASL and English at the age of 18. Now, she is fluent in all 3 languages. I think that is amazing. __________________ ~Shel~