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Old 12-24-2007, 11:47 AM   #140 (permalink)
jillio
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Originally Posted by Yiffzer View Post
links please?

i wouldn't dismiss my observations just yet. i've been observing deaf students' use of english (around high school 'til college) for so many years. i see the same pattern. most of them just suck in english. no "studies" will change my mind on this.

but i'm not dismissing that there are deaf students who are sufficient or brilliant with their english. i've met some of those people and i often feel intimidated around them. ;D

i haven't been around the forums that much to notice you or shel's posts regarding the asl-english link, so i apologize for that.
I am not dismissing your observations at all. I am simply saying that the empirical evidence gathered over the past 50 years supports shel's statement that deaf of deaf perform at a higher level academically that do deaf of hearing, and in particular, deaf of hearing with late or no exposure to sign. Your observations hardly equate with a controlled scientific study that accounts for variables you cannot control, and most likely do not take into consideration, with an observation. Therefore, that which has been supported empirically always carries more validity than casual observation and opinion. Many conclusions drawn from casual observation are not supportable through empirical study for that very reason.
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