11-08-2007, 04:29 PM
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Sussi *7.7.86 - 18.6.09*
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Germany
Posts: 30,971
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Originally Posted by fredfam1
which is great because million Americans have no health insurances.
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Yes, this is a fact... Thatīs why Hillary support healthcare to help million Americans.
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A national health care system would be a disaster for this
country. I have talked personally with people who come
from other countries with these types of systems. There
is never enough money to cover the cost of such a system
no matter how much the people are taxed. They say that
the waiting line for emergency services and basic services
can be from months to even years. They have told me that
members of their families have died from waiting for appointments.
They have said that what we hear on the news about how
good the system is, is not true. I have talked to people from
Romania, Germany, many places in Europe. They all want
to come here for treatment.
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wow, you made a misleading information here. I donīt know where you or your people get it from.
Germany? waiting list?
I live here in Germany and know about health system. I guess you confused Germany with UK health system.
I gave information about German health system out in several threads in the past because the people misunderstand about EU social system. We pay social insurances system which mean is healthcare, nursing care, pension and unemployment, not tax system.
Can you provide us the link to support your claim that Germans died from waiting list for appointments because I never heard about this but UK health system? Germans are smart people and would sue doctors for keep them long waiting to make a lot of money. We get treatment as soon as they found out something wrong with us instead of keep us long waiting. I donīt know much about Romania health system.
No, itīs not true that Western Europeans went to America for treatment because they do not need since they have health system in their countries but the people (illegal immigirants) from some poor EU countries went America for free treatment because Western EU countries doesnīt give them free treatment. EU social health system do not give illegal immigrants for treatment unless they are legal imgriation and citizions.
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If people get free health care, it will not be long befor that
health care will be rationed. I have a family of 8. I do not
have health care insurance. Oregon has an emergency plan
for children and if I need it I will use it. However, I have
chosen instead to care for my own family, to study basic
emergency care, (many free classes on cpr, etc) nutrition,
herbal remedies and natural alternatives. If they need a
check up I save up the money for it. I recently had to take
my 7 year old to the emergency room. The bill was $300. They
will take $50 per month payments. That is way better than me
paying over $400 per month for insurance that doesn't cover
very much. Our country already has systems in place to help
people in emergency situations. If I didn't have free emergency
help for my husband and myself because we are veterans then
I would pay a small premium for catastrophic health insurance.
There are always other methods to take care of oneself and ones
family. We should not burden our already overtaxed working class
with more taxes to cover health care. Our government has already
proven it can not be trusted to manage these programs. Look
at social security.
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Yes, we know that US health system is poor, thatīs why Hillary want to help million Americans to make their life easy. I know that health insurance in America is expensive than EU countries. I get everything what I need including spa resort every 3 to 4 years... therapies, counesllors, specialists, doctors, etc... healthcare pays... except beauty comestic system.
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Besides all that. Hillary can not be trusted. If you really want to
know what she is like read a book by Gary Aldrich called Unlimited
Access. It will make your hair stand on end. She would make a
horrible President and she has no concern for people who are
not in positions of power.
In addition I went to one of her speeches here because my sister-in-law
was one of the interpreters for the Deaf at that function. She said that
members of Hillarys team practically had to drag her over to thank the
interpreters, and that Hillary was angry about it. (and my sisinlaw likes
Hillary)
Hillary is shrewed, intelligent and power hungry. The sad part is I am
living in a time when I will be allowed to vote for a female president and
the choice I have is her. I will not be part of placing a person who is
dishonest, tyrancal, and power hungryin office. No matter what her politics are.
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Sorry, I have to disagree with your negative over Hillary but I has to respect your choice. I am not here to influence your decision. Accord your post, that you paid $300 for take your daughter to emergency room... Hillary will make sure that you wonīt pay other $300.00 or more for take your daughter to emergency room for next time... At German health system, we donīt pay like that... I only paid 10 at quarterly for visit emergencies and doctor appointments, no matter how often I visit in quarterly and pay medicine, cream, etc between 5 and 10 - depend the prices of medicines... Healthcare pay around 90% of worth medicines, cream. Rest, we paid 5 to 10.
Next time, please search correct information and make question instead of make a false assumption.
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