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Originally Posted by jillio
I think it is a four or five pronged diagnosis, Presonality Disorder with obsessive compulsive features, body dysmorphic disoder, probably depressive symptoms, and adjustment issues as well. These are all easliy diagnosed within DSM IV TR criterion, and the symptomology described by these indiviudals fits within the parameters needed for diagnosis.
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I am *so* glad you are not my mental health professional.
Before the DSM IV TR came out, there was the DSM IV, and before that, there was the DSM III, and before that? DSM II. This means that they are continually adding things to the DSM, and continually taking things out. A condition may exist before it goes in the DSM, or it may exist after it's taken out of the DSM. Being in the DSM does not mean it doesn't exist.
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Originally Posted by Claire_C
the DSM is a guide and not the infallible divinely inspired repository of all there is to know about the human condition.
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Exactly.
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Originally Posted by jillio
I see......so you sought out a psychologist that would validate your self diagnosis.
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Oh but you are an arrogant so and so! You have the response for everything, you are *so* right and we are *so* wrong.
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Originally Posted by jillio
And my point stands....you cannot be diagnosed with a disorder that for all practical purposes does not exist.
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BIID exists. Again, it's not because it's not in the DSM that it does not exist.
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Originally Posted by jillio
Perhaps if you found a psychologist who treated your primary disorder, rather than the one with which you have diagnosed yourself you would be much more successful in treatment.
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many psychologists have treated many people with BIID for "primary disorders", from borderline personality disorder to OCD, to BDD, and many other things. And guess what? To a person, they ALL report that these things don't work, that at the end, BIID is still present.
It's not *me* saying this, although I agree with it. But when the majority of professionals who have written about BIID state that 1)it exists, and 2)there are no form of treatment short of surgery that touches it, I tend to believe them. I'm sorry Jillio, but your credentials just don't match.
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Originally Posted by jillio
I have already posted reference to the DSM IV TR, the manual used by professionals in the field to diagnose mental illness. This is the accepted standard of practice for psycholgists, psychiatrists, and clinical counselors. It is compiled by the top practitioners within the field and is based on the most current research.
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Yes, and we have already pointed out that the DSM is not the be all and end all. But that said, I'll emphasise what you wrote:
It is compiled by the top practitioners within the field and is based on the most current research. We've already mentionned Doctor Michael First. Several times. Did you chose to ignore it? He's a top practitioner in his field. He also happens to be an editor of the DSM IV TR and of the upcoming DSM V. I think we also mentionned that he is the one who put forward the term Body Integrity Identity Disorder.