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Originally Posted by jillio
A proper model of spoken English does not include sign, and a proper model of ASL does not include voice.
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Agree. If you sign with speaking English or speak English with signing, that is not proper ASL. PSE/SEE is better than no signs and I understand PSE/SEE when learning ASL, but ASL and English are different languages. ASL is not "English with the hands" and English is not "loud ASL". I think most hearing people do not understand that.