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Old 10-03-2007, 10:47 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Reba View Post
"Some form of harassment and/or violence" isn't the same as 60% being killed.
Ok I admit my mistakeness, but that is still a hate crime.

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Do you really believe a hate crime law will change that?
It can be. It will make GLBT community, especially transgenders, to feel safe to be express themselves. They killed themselves because they scare of others, not themselves.

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How? Will it prevent hate? Isn't that the root problem? How do you change people's hearts, beliefs and attitudes?
First, I said "reduce", not prevent. It's just like the black people in the past. Transgender folks experience the discimination at their workplace, their housing, etc just like the black people in the past had experienced. Those had to be stopped.

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That has nothing to do with changing police and court procedures.

How do you legislate emotions? You can't.

You can legislate behavior. We already have laws against assault and murder. That is a behavior. If you don't believe transgender people are getting a fair shake with police and the courts, then that's where the effort is needed. Creating a new law that won't get enforced, or gets enforced selectively or incorrectly, won't help anyone.
Of course we have freedom of speech, I know that, BUT what is the problem is that present hate crime law DOES NOT include the gender identify so the transgender group was the only group that are LEGAL to discriminate against. That is not fair for transgender while there is anti-discrimination law for race, sex, sexual orientation, etc.

Secondly, police and courts does not require to remove hate criminals's right to vote or go to school which was suppose to be REQUIRED.

This law is not a "created law", it's ratherly a expanison of the 1969 Hate Crime Law.
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