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Bear · 07-27-2007, 08:39 AM

The problem with that logic Liebling is if we offer then jobs and work experiences then where are we gonna find our jobs? After all there are only so many jobs available and if we fill them with illegal immigrants then there are no jobs for legal citizens.

I have a few friends that would love to move to the USA,but they wanna do it legally and I applaud them for that and would welcome them into my country.

One of the major problems with illegals is that a majority of them just bring *organized crime* with them. They aren't really interested in coming here to learn or even to lead a better life. They are coming here because the type of crime *mob or otherwise* earns alot more here than where they currently are.

As for an immigrant wanting to do things legally and lead a better life and have a chance at true freedom *whatever that may be lol* I welcome with open arms.

After all how many of us are true natives of the countries we now live in? Many of us could research our history *geneology* and find that our families once immigrated there from somewhere else.

The saying that illegals will do jobs that many americans wont do is also kaput. Most of those jobs are hiring illegals simply because they will accept low wages and no benefits. So the hiring company takes them over us because is it cheaper and more cost effective on the company.

Give me a meat packing job. I would happily do it, especially if it offered even the smallest benefit package. All I care about is having my doctor,hospital and prescriptions covered. But most employers will rather hire an illegal so they dont even have to provide that much. You will find most poor Americans will do almost any job for the smallest benefit package and for a decent wage of maybe 7-8 dollars an hour. Whereas, illegals will work for 5 dollars an hour or less sometimes with no benefits. So, you tell me why these jobs are so called jobs *americans wont do*? That's actually a myth.

I would work in the fields all day long if they paid me 7-8 dollars an hour with a few health benefits. Heck wal-mart offers about the same. At least in the fields it is outdoors and fresh air.

R2 you said it is a choice to cross due to need. OK fine let me put this example to you. Would you chose to sell drugs or become a hooker if you had to? Its still illegal in MANY countries but yet one could use that same arguement for doing so.

I have been faced many times with having a utility shut off due to no money to pay it. However, does that give me an excuse to break the law to *better my life?* or my childrens?

Not in my eyes it doesnt. It just means I need to work harder and find more legal ways of earning the money needed.

Heck in that case with the excuse let me immigrate to Canada as there they have FREE HEALTHCARE. At least there I wouldnt need to worry about paying for my own healthcare or worry about getting a 2nd job to afford healthcare.

Every country has its own problems. However, I believe it is up to the people of that country to fight for its own problems and find ways to resolve them.

I for one do support immigration if it is done legally and for the reason of wanting change or to find a better life. However, I do not support it if done illegally and with the intention of leading a criminal life as many of them do.

07-27-2007, 08:39 AM	#92 (permalink)
Bear Out Of Hibernation Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,137	The problem with that logic Liebling is if we offer then jobs and work experiences then where are we gonna find our jobs? After all there are only so many jobs available and if we fill them with illegal immigrants then there are no jobs for legal citizens. I have a few friends that would love to move to the USA,but they wanna do it legally and I applaud them for that and would welcome them into my country. One of the major problems with illegals is that a majority of them just bring organized crime with them. They aren't really interested in coming here to learn or even to lead a better life. They are coming here because the type of crime mob or otherwise earns alot more here than where they currently are. As for an immigrant wanting to do things legally and lead a better life and have a chance at true freedom whatever that may be lol I welcome with open arms. After all how many of us are true natives of the countries we now live in? Many of us could research our history geneology and find that our families once immigrated there from somewhere else. The saying that illegals will do jobs that many americans wont do is also kaput. Most of those jobs are hiring illegals simply because they will accept low wages and no benefits. So the hiring company takes them over us because is it cheaper and more cost effective on the company. Give me a meat packing job. I would happily do it, especially if it offered even the smallest benefit package. All I care about is having my doctor,hospital and prescriptions covered. But most employers will rather hire an illegal so they dont even have to provide that much. You will find most poor Americans will do almost any job for the smallest benefit package and for a decent wage of maybe 7-8 dollars an hour. Whereas, illegals will work for 5 dollars an hour or less sometimes with no benefits. So, you tell me why these jobs are so called jobs americans wont do? That's actually a myth. I would work in the fields all day long if they paid me 7-8 dollars an hour with a few health benefits. Heck wal-mart offers about the same. At least in the fields it is outdoors and fresh air. R2 you said it is a choice to cross due to need. OK fine let me put this example to you. Would you chose to sell drugs or become a hooker if you had to? Its still illegal in MANY countries but yet one could use that same arguement for doing so. I have been faced many times with having a utility shut off due to no money to pay it. However, does that give me an excuse to break the law to better my life? or my childrens? Not in my eyes it doesnt. It just means I need to work harder and find more legal ways of earning the money needed. Heck in that case with the excuse let me immigrate to Canada as there they have FREE HEALTHCARE. At least there I wouldnt need to worry about paying for my own healthcare or worry about getting a 2nd job to afford healthcare. Every country has its own problems. However, I believe it is up to the people of that country to fight for its own problems and find ways to resolve them. I for one do support immigration if it is done legally and for the reason of wanting change or to find a better life. However, I do not support it if done illegally and with the intention of leading a criminal life as many of them do.