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Old 07-27-2007, 02:27 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Reba View Post
That's a cop out.
Most revolutions are manned by the poor people.
So, do you think that the poor people of Mexico should revolt against their leaders and install new leaders who will suddenly give them a decent standard of living, their children an education etc. Where are the leaders going to get the money from to pay for this that the current leaders could not do? Mexico is already a democracy, why should people revolt against that?

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Or he might think, "Ha, why should I bother struggling with my government when I can just cross the Rio and get a job."
Wouldn't you? Are you honestly telling me that in their shoes you would say to grandma, grandpa, your wife and your six children "just wait a bit longer for food, medical treatment and accommodation until I start the revolution and then everything will be provided for you." Would you really do that? Be honest. Revolutions take years to enact and you need a critical mass of the population to support a revolution. And then again, why would you revolt against a democracy?

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I know all about the Minutemen, and they are NOT vigilantes. They don't break any laws at the borders. They don't shoot at anyone crossing border. They report border crossings to legal authorities (like any citizen can and should do), and let them handle the confrontation. The Minutemen have actually provided food, water, and first aid to some border crossers in need.
Okay, you seem to have gone to semantics about words here. I don't care what they are called vigilantes, good citizens whatever. The original point was that a terrorist is not going to waste their time crossing the border this way when there is still a reasonable chance that he will get caught, possibly questioned and give away the plot.
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