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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))
Definition: Revenge
1. punishment: the punishment of somebody in retaliation for harm done
2. retaliation act: something done to get even with somebody else who has caused harm
3. desire for retaliation: the desire or urge to get even with somebody
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As you can see by your definition, capital punishment is
not revenge. It's
not done in retaliation for harm done because the punishment doesn't "get even".
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It's NOT the victims' family executing the killer.
Good, what would you say if the victimsīfamily is being label as revenge and murder for killed murder to law eye? Right?
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No, it's illegal for the victim's family to revenge kill. The U.S. government doesn't execute criminals for "revenge" but for justice.
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The law itself do not label as revenge and murder for kill murder like what victimīs family did to murder... I know you will say "execution" is a different... No matter! Itīs still the same... murder is murder...
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I guess you don't understand the legal definitions or the U.S. justice system. Personal revenge killing is murder. Execution of a criminal after due process is not murder.
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To my eyes, itīs a revenge... Its teach people to be bitter and revenge... The law for death penatly doesnīt solve anything.
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How does an execution teach people to be bitter? Well, I guess the person being executed might feel bitter. Too bad.
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Death penatly is similar to "euthanasia". Do you support to save murderīs suffer? I support euthanasia for the pets and humans who suffer severe. ..
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Now I'm totally confused. First, you say you are against the death penalty because it's "murder". Then, you say the death penalty is the same as "euthanasia". If that's true, then euthanasia is murder, right? So you are against the death penalty AND euthanasia, right? But you said you support euthanasia for humans. Does that mean you support murdering sick people, but you don't support executing guilty criminals? That is contradictory.
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No wonder, why murders are happy to put die than suffer... They rather die than stay in prison...
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Huh? Where did you get that information? Please show me some documentation.
Besides, since when is the decision up to the prisoners?
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To me, that people who are furious and want murder to put death and want to see them pain like what they did to innoncent victim is a revenge.
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You still don't understand the process. It doesn't matter if people are "furious" or if they are forgiving. The family members don't make the decision, and they don't execute it. It is the
state (the government) judicial system of judges and juries that make the decision, following the guidelines of the particular state involved.
Victims' families can make victim impact statements and recommendations but the final decision is for the courts, not the families. The courts are not allowed to use "revenge" as a factor.
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Hold on... Question... Rape, pedophilia and other crimes are also punish to death after what they did to survivor victims?
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Sometimes.
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You support law, okay... but what will you consider if one of victimsī family killed murder?
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Unless that happens during the commission of the original crime (such as self defense), then that's against the law, and they will be arrested, charged, and tried.
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For law eyes, they are label as revenge and murder for killed murder... but the law itself is not label as murder to punish murders to death.
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Because the courts don't commit revenge.
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Whatīs the difference? I consider them the SAME!
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Well, you can "consider" it the same if you want but that's not the law. You can have an "opinion" but that's not a fact.
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Donīt you know that murderīs or victimsīs family have feeling when they donīt agree justice system... ?
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Sure they have feelings. But "feelings" can't be allowed to govern. That would be chaos.