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Old 01-21-2006, 05:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Banjo
Not so fast, so far... you haven't proven me wrong. You're talking about weblogs, not forums. Two different concepts.
How did you come to any interpretation that a blog is any different from a discussion forum, for the purposes of PROVING THAT YOU SAID SOMETHING?

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Alldeaf is not a weblog. It's a forum. People has gotten fired for what they said on their weblogs, but at a forum?
Absolutely. People get fired for comments they make ANYWHERE online.

http://www.allianceibm.org/EITReinstatementStory.htm

This is ONE EXAMPLE of a person getting fired for his comments about a company on an internet forum. The only reason he still had a job was because a court determined he was making those comments in the interest of his union, which protects him from anything that employer can do to him. After reading the article, I can't see how his comments were construed as union activity, but regardless, that is a narrow protection and coloravalanche is not protected by a union.

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An internet forum is not the same as a weblog. Many people don't fully identify themselves like they would on a weblog. There's also another flaw in using such an argument. Anybody can pretend to be me if they wanted to be. That's why it should be in the same category as tape recorders... because they can be easily manipulated. Actually, being an imposter on the Internet is even easier in comparison to using a tape recorder because they can get access to photo profiles and their details then use them to their advantages.

Heck, one could write down a detailed plan of how I plan to do something nasty and then commit the crime. That's a good way of framing someone. It's very easy to do such a thing.
Not "fully" identifying oneself is not a protection against prosecution. It just makes it harder to prove, but not impossible. And if you post in ways that leave little doubt as to who is the poster, then proving it was you who posted should be fairly easy to establish.

You seem to think that identify theft and attempting to frame someone for this kind of situation would be easy. It's not. There are IP address logs, ISP logs, computer temp file logs, and history logs. There is a huge electronic trail that leads straight to your front door.

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It's a flawed argument, period.
It's not a flawed argument. It's a difficult argument to prove, but as you can see, from my two examples, if you say something online, you need to be prepared to accept the consequences. If I spoke negatively against my company anywhere online, and someone just happens to put 2 and 2 together, I could be out of a job. The whole world is watching the internet -- why put your job or lawsuit at risk?


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Actually this member didn't give out too much information as who the landlord is, and where the apartment is at that she is living in, so I highly doubt this will backfire at her during court....

Beside, a member has a right to vent, and get information that may help her case.....
coloravalanche gave some information that may help the landlord with their case. The landlord's lawyers can also come onto AllDeaf and pull more information out of coloravalanche -- after all, coloravalanche wouldn't suspect them to use AllDeaf, right? All it takes is for alldeaf to show up in a google search and coloravalanche to say the wrong thing and the whole lawsuit is lost. I'd rather see a win in this lawsuit than to have someone learn the hard way how it can be lost.

Venting is nice. In this lawsuit filled world, venting can be dangerous when it involves courts and sleazy lawyers.


Anyway, coloravalanche, good luck, get that lawyer soon, and keep your home!
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