01-20-2006, 08:38 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Germany
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Originally Posted by mld4ds
Oh pleaz, Liebling,
You may not have enough time for your personal leisure when you are being a chauffeur for your kids. I bet your hubby in bed is gonna to be  and  |
 To Europeans view, it's selfish of parents to complaint or label as "chauffeur their kids".
Our children are our responsible until they are 18 years old. The responsible parent should be happy to offer to drive their children to. What's the parents for. It's normal to make sacrifice for their children's safety than let to risk their life.
The teenagers have to be killed by car accident BECAUSE the parents complaint for "chauffeur" their kids to".  .
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November 28, 2004: Sweet 16: But Not For Driving
Two weeks ago, after a 16-year-old student at Churchill High School in Montgomery County, Md., was killed while driving from a party where alcohol was being served, parents met to discuss how to stop teen drinking and driving.
As well intentioned as such forums may be, they dodge the plain fact that the surest way to reduce the number of teen traffic deaths — nearly 8,000 last year — is to reduce the number of teens on the road. The best place to start is with 16-year-olds.
In the U.S., 16-year-olds have a crash rate five times greater than that of 18-year-olds. Although the driving experience of 16- and 18- year-olds has to be taken into account, immaturity plays an even bigger role, especially among boys. The immaturity factor is so strong that, according to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, driver-education courses have had little or no effect on teen accidents.
Yet, in most states, teens are allowed to get a permit at 15 and a license at 16. If the permit age were pushed up to 16, and if kids were required to hold the permit for a year before getting a license, there would be a substantial reduction in the deaths of teen drivers and their passengers. In England, the driving age is 17, and in Germany, it is 18. Both countries have lower teen fatality rates than the United States. [DSA note: This is despite these countries having factors which should make matters worse, such as higher speed limits and many small cars, etc., so this article is clearly making an accurate and highly important point.]
Raising the driving age to 17 would disappoint 16-year-olds who have come to see getting a license as a rite of passage. It would foment an uproar among the growing numbers who have bamboozled their parents into thinking that they are entitled to a new car on their 16th birthday. And many parents would not be too happy to have to wait a year to stop driving their teens around or to delegate the chauffeuring of younger kids to teen drivers.
But any responsible parent would gladly make that sacrifice to avoid the grief that I witnessed last month, when one of my students was killed as she rode with a 16-year-old driver whom police have charged with reckless driving.
Laura Lynam, the best student in my senior English classes at T.C. Williams High School in Alexandria, Va., became the 15th teenager in the Washington metropolitan area to be killed in a car accident in a three-week period....
...when it comes to cars — the biggest source of
http://www.driveandstayalive.com/inf...es/2004-11.htm
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How are you going to have your personal time to drive your kids to the university more than 50 miles between your home and the university when Danny will be 18 years old? I used to drive to Kansas State University from home about 50 miles (one way) almost daily for one semester. Can you manage?
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As far as I see myself that EU government concern their countries to improve is public transportation system than America. I'm sure that you know that. As what I see myself how difference between British and Germany. British and France transportation system are better than Germany but Germans government take care of improve transportation system for years... of course every year... Why can't US government do the same then? It's about protect people's safety.
Here is my answer, if my children are at college, university or whatever more than 50 miles then they take train... I would be happy to offer to drive them to train station before on my way to work or if my work time is not possible to drive them to train station then they can take the bus to train station then they take train themselves to there... or stay at student homes there... If they want to travel to there and back to home everyday then they have to take bus to home after college themselves.
EU and US system are different, that's why we have no problem since we have public transportation system here to take my children to anywhere. We often take train to make our outing trip to leave our car because of gasonline expense. That's how the children grew up knowing and respect about expenses...
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After high school graduation, I got a job to the small town about 35 miles where they manufacture RV and small shuttles. There was a no public transportation between the points because of rural zone.
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Like what I say before, US government should improve public transportation in their country.
Can your kids ride their bicycles daily to work daily?
Yes, there're VERY common of Germans ride their bicycles to work daily during good weather. If bad weather then take the bus or drive car. Before I start family, I use to ride the bicycle to work daily (5 miles) and took the bus during bad weather until US Army caserne where I work had to move to other area which around 12 miles  I check bus connection but it's bad so I made driving liescne. I really do not need driving leicsne until 1992. The city in London where I grew up, not need driving liecnse because of good public transportation system. Yes, I can ride my bicycle for 12 miles daily to my work place but I can't because I must arrive home from work by 4.20 pm before my hubby must leave at 4.45 pm for work. (It would take me over 1 hour to arrive home)... Who watch children? I has to wait patience until my children are old enough then....
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u have to trust your kids and let them drive in your cars.
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Legal driving age 18 accord German law. I has to raise car and tax insurance if I offer my children to take my car... which it's mean is 3 times high insurance for teenagers until 25 years old than normal insurance from 25 years old only if there're no accidents. No Way. If police found out that I offer my children to car without notify "teens" insurance then I will pay 2,000 EUR penatly fine. No Way... My children will get second handed car from us when they success to get driving liecsne. We support teens car insurance and tax for them at ONCE then they should manage themselves rest of their life............ Legal 18 years old mean is their own responsible, not our responsible... 
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Tell me how did you get your driving license and how old did you finally drive yourself?
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I got my first driving license at age 29... I wasn't pay the attention for want drive since I know there're public transportation... then married and move to Germany... I has to learn drive because of bad bus connection to work place where they move to other area... It's impossible for my hubby to drive me there daily because his work is different direction as mine... If there're good direction/connection then he would drive me there before on his way to work
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