Originally Posted by StSapphire
Bush (probably) lied to get us into one specific mess. He didn't lie to cause the dot-com bubble burst (which he inherited, similar to Obama inheriting the financial mess, and had a similarly negative impact on the economy in general, though not nearly as widespread), and unless you're a conspiracy theorist who thinks the government is far more competent than I'd ever be willing to give them credit for, then he also didn't lie and/or fabricate 9/11 itself, either.
I could also be easily convinced that Bush himself didn't actually "lie" about Iraq so much as "was completely wrong without realizing it" (at least at first - after a year or two, he was either lied to or lying himself, but that's an entirely different matter).
I find it a bit odd that in spite of the overwhelming evidence, people buy the current argument that Bush was "misled." And don't knock the "conspiracy theorists," because they are closer to the truth than we may admit (which is why we ridicule them). I no longer investigate 9-11 matters: I am convinced of my belief, and I accept that you are equally convinced of yours. Ah well.