09-02-2008, 05:21 PM
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Sussi *7.7.86 - 18.6.09*
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Germany
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huh? Who said we don't have problem to pay tax to support war issues? That is incredibly ignorant thing to say. It's not like we have a choice to choose where our tax money goes to. and no we don't pay tax DIRECTLY to war.
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The people know Bush Administration what tax system is about before they voted him, don´t they?
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But you know what? You paid for your gas, right? You are, in essence, funding the war... especially terrorists  therefore.... you are a Domestic Dissent (j/k)
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 I did not know that Americans have gas tax take out from their monthly wage slip because I do not have one... 
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It is very nice of you to care about others at your expense but that just doesn't fly for me. I'm fine with government programs to fund and help them to find jobs and stuff but I do not believe in allowing poor people having equal benefits as the rich (especially health benefits). That's not just right and it's unfair.
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Rich people pay more % healthcare insurance out of their gross income than normal people...
Example: A rich person/middle class person/low class person earn approx: 5,5% of healthcare per month.
5,5% = $330 take out of $6,000 gross income for healthcare... (rich person)
5,5% = $165 take out of $3,000 gross income for healthcare... (middle class person)
5,5% = $55 take out of $1,000 gross income for healthcare... (low class person)
They get equal treatment, no matter what. If they want private healthcare then they have to pay extra...
I hope you get what I am trying to explain?
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They can go move to Europe or a communist state if they want no class distinctions.
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Misleading... 
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Beside - they shouldn't complain. There are abundant of charity programs, churches, free shelters, free clinics, etc. it's better than nothing.
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Well I learn from many threads for past years that the people become homeless real fast after they lost their job... no easy to have shelter because of full...
free clinics???? No, it´s not free because you work to pay medicard tax for low income people, don´t you? It´s bad that you work to pay tax for them, not including for yourself.
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The reason why people say it doesn't work well is because there are far too many leechers than the needy ones.
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What the people says is true because I learn a lot from threads for past years.
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I understand that you live in a socialist state all your life so it's hard for you to understand the way of American life.
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But many Americans see different as you because they need health insurance for family badly, that´s why they want to vote Obama.
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You grew up being used to paying high tax, high gas price, and high etc. You're used to living with a very modest means. Just think of America as opposite of your lifestyle.
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Yes I understand what you mean but many Americans who married to Europeans and live in Europe countries and said positive and also say in their opinion that US should do the same which is more easy for families... (links, I posted somewhere at Brad´s thread). They said that their life is easier than they were in America.
Well, I grew up to know difference healthcare system between UK and Germany, also France as well. I prefer German healthcare system over UK and France. I have seen a lot of changes in social insurance system but I really have no problem with that... *shrug*
Yes, we have high gas price including different taxes for vehicle... We find the way to aviod for use car a lot due gas expenses is use bicycles, get few years old car with gas save..., transportation... Use bus and train is cheaper than car.
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This whole social welfare program modeled after EU is just not going to work in here.
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How do you know that it doesn´t work in America? Why can´t you give Obama the chance to improve and change the country?... It doesn´t mean that Obama follow EU system to work on US system when he want to help the people to get their life easier.
Example: Before Iraq war was started, Tony Blair (UK) improved and changed the country as what he promised before he won at his 1st election. He did it successful... I see why not if Obama want to change and improve the country as well. If you want the country remain unchanged which mean that you agree with the way what and how Bush Admin. with tax system for war issues, medicard for low income people, etc., not healthcare for yourself.
Remember, the decision is yours either you want to see your country to improve and change or not.
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