Thread: Soldier on trial for Iraq refusal
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Old 06-25-2008, 03:58 AM   #105 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Liebling:-))) View Post
The question to ask is not an insult but a simple. Please check the links, I posted at #39. It says that the soliders do not deny their knowledge that they kill inncoents and said that itīs their job to kill humans. They were being trained, etc. Get real, itīs not an insult because everyone knows that. I asked you a simple question because you canīt understand that we CAN say NO for good reasons. All what you keep on saying that Watada broke the contract, oath, etc. He MUST obey the order, call solider coward for say no... etc... Yes you said this... thatīs why I asked you a simple question either you would obey the order from the general to kill inncoent person or not? You really have no idea what and how soliders experienced there. Look the example of your previous post "it's called... war, maybe?" ...

Anyway, accord your theoretical question. This question, you made toward me is not an insult but stupidity and ignorant question. I donīt mind to answer any stupid questions...

Here is my simple answer: No.

Would you call me a coward if I said no to generalīs order to do something wrongly?


Fact #1: The issue is about Lt. Watada - not other soldiers.
Fact #2: The issue about Lt. Watada refusing the order of deployment.
Fact #3: His legal argument based on illegality of the war is IRRELEVANT
Fact #4: He was not ordered to kill the innocent people
Fact #5: He was offered an office duty in Iraq so how is he being ordered to kill innocents unless he's the one who ordered soldiers to kill innocents.

Please stick to the topic in your own thread. We're arguing about Lt. Watada's case, not other soldiers. Most of us have concluded that he illegally disobeyed the order of deployment. I have not seen any one other person in this thread who supported Lt. Watada.

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-))) View Post
Not that, I am trying to tell you but numbers which different as your link... Your link said around 100 and 250 but my link says around 300 live in Canada, and around 20,000 to 50,000 moved to Canada to aviod military duty (Vietnam war) and over 3,300 deserters last year to somewhere. Yes I have read from that link, I posted that Canada government is not US solidersīside.
So my figure was off by 50 people... You said "many" escaped to Canada perhaps in an "exaggerated" manner so I wanted to clarify it. and we're not concerned with deserters during Vietnam War. It is . Stick to Iraq War issue please... more specifically - stick to Lt. Watada's case.
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