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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))
Correct, we have different agreement contracts. It's also correct that US/LN civilian employees and military agreement contract are not same as well.
No, any agreement contracts cannot be change but our negotiate can only if employer/military agrees. We have to stick with agreement contract if employer or military said no to negotiate.
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why do you keep talking about your contracts or civilian contracts? that's
Please stop talking about any civilian contracts in this thread. It is not related at all unless you have signed that Enlistment Contract.
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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))
Yes some military people use lawyer to convince what it written in contract if they doubt to trust their employer. If they agree with negotiate then add in writing, never use the negotiate out of their mouth.
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why do you not understand that military contract (with soldiers, not civilians) is
AS IS? It never changes. they have only 2 choices - sign or leave. Not very hard to understand, isn't it? BTW - the employer is Uncle Sam. There's no negotiation with him. take it or leave it. very simple.
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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))
I admire Watada for stand up for his own rights because he did not desert or run away and hide from his decision when he knew what the consequences is about when he refuse to deploy to Iraq War. That's bravey.
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What rights? He broke the contract. He was ordered to go to Iraq. That's all. It didn't say that he has to go to Iraq and kill some people. He can even probably stay in Iraq for a week and then be ordered to go somewhere else.
With his officer ranking, he is in position to help make sure Iraqis and soldiers are well-taken care of. We need more fine leaders out there to make sure everything's ok and they don't even need to be in combat zone. It can even take ONE courageous officer with smart strategy to win the hearts and minds of Iraqis! Do you rather the office be run by incompetent or callous officers who do not care about people and enforce unfair rules like curfew?
He deserted his own men. How is that a bravery to abandon your own men? There are many people who entrusted their lives in him as a leader but he shit on them and does not care about them except his own life. That's not bravery - it's a cowardice. Bravery is to accept the order of deployment and do his best to protect his men and Iraqis from harm. That's bravery.
Please do us a favor and stop defending your position with this lost cause. Many of us agreed that Lt. Watada is guilty of charges. Please find another example. Lt. Watada is a very poor choice.