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Old 06-20-2008, 09:09 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Liebling:-))) View Post
Check the link of my first thread. I have another link...
Thank You Lt. Watada - Home Page
quote from Lt. Watada email thing -
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Did a little research.

Watada's website (thankyoult.org) was registered May31 by Jeff Paterson of Not In Our Name.

The two admit being in touch since at least March. Jeff Paterson, as some of you may recall, pulled the same stunt during the Gulf War (he brags about it at jeff.paterson.net). Not In Our Name were ahead of the game when it came to protesting our liberation of Iraq - remember their bs pledge signed by the A-list of celebrity moonbats?

Well, Not In Our Name organized several coordinated protests before the bombs started to drop - two of the largest were October 26, 2002 and February 15, 2003 on which there were sizeable protests in Honolulu. The Feb. 15 protest (which they boast was "The single biggest day of worldwide protest in history") was held at Pearl Harbor - spitting distance from Hawaii Pacific University, where Watada was going to college.

Hard to believe young Ehren wasn't exposed to even a little bitt of NION propaganda that would have piqued his curiosity about a possible war - what with him being such a relentlessly inquisitive paragon of deep thinking and all.
Liebling - if you want to have a strong support to your view, please use a credible source. not some random links you found in google especially some protester sites. Scholarly sources, info from legal proceedings, testimony of "high-level" officials, and also info from reputable independent investigation authorized by appropriate organization such as UN/Congress/etc. are best used as a support to one's view/belief/argument.

You're clouding the argument with mostly your personal experiences and emotion/sympathy which is usually ignored because it's just . If you want to call it an Illegal War and Illegal Order... then picture yourself speaking at Supreme Court before 9 honorable judges or at the Congressional Hearing. You need to show substantial, solid, reputable evidence/argument beyond all reasonable doubt to present your case that Iraq War is illegal and that Lt. Watada has legal rights to disobey the order of deployment. If you can do that, then I will support you and denounce this war as illegal.

Until then.... as far as I'm concerned, Lt. Watada is in wrong of disobeying the orders and Iraq War is legal since Congress authorized the funding and it is in full compliance with both international & domestic law and United Nations Security Council Resolution 1637.
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